Elena <elena_paleno@rambler.ru> <fouldsraminezw255@gmail.com>

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10.02.2014, 23:04 (Dieser Beitrag wurde zuletzt bearbeitet: 11.02.2014 11:49 von abu1963.)
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Elena <elena_paleno@rambler.ru> <fouldsraminezw255@gmail.com>
Ich wollte auch einen Beitrag, was Liebesbetrug eventuell angeht, leisten.

Ich habe seit längeren Zeitraum E-Mailkontakt zu einer angeblichen Elena aus Russland.


Die erste Absenderadresse war (Elena) fouldsraminezw255@gmail.com


Das war die erste E-Mail

Salut, pleased to welcome! Mein Name ist Elena. Unbekannte Frau schickte mir eine Nachricht auf der Dating-Website
was war Ihr E-Mail. Ich entschied mich, Ihnen zu schreiben. Ich suche einen Mann für
ernsthafte und langfristige Beziehungen. Ich bin Single, ich habe keine Kinder.
Ich bin 32 Jahren. Wenn Sie sich für mich interessieren, schreiben Sie an
mich auf meiner E-mail: elena_paleno@rambler.ru Ich werde für Ihren Brief mit der Ungeduld warten,
Ich werde Ihnen mehr über mich selbst zu erzählen.Later
Elena.


Eine ip Recherche hat ergeben das die Mails die über die rambler.ru Adresse kommen, aus Kanada / USA gesendet wurden, eine Telefonummer habe ich auch noch +79078644541, sie wollte meine Stimme hören. Geldforderungen sind noch nicht eingegangen, wir planen zur Zeit unser Meeting

mit freundlichen Grüssen

XXX

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Nutzerabu1963 änderte 11.02.2014 00:25 diesen Beitrag, weil:

Bitte, falls vorhanden, noch den Header zu der Nachricht mit einstellen. Persönliche Infos, wie eigene Mailadresse und Name durch xxx ersetzen.
Falls noch mehr E-Mails vorhanden sind, bitte auch mit Headern und zugehörigen Bildern einstellen. Danke!

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Eine Erklärung noch zu den Bildern, jedes kam mit einer E-Mail als Kopf, nicht als Anhang. Die 5 Bilder, habe noch weitere, stammen aus 5 verschieden Mails, 13 wetere E-Mails wurden über rambler.ru gesendet. Wie viel wird denn vom Header benötigt ?

Gruss XXX

NutzerGeist änderte 11.02.2014 00:49 diesen Beitrag, weil:

Immer den vollständigen Headern nur die eigenen Daten, wie Mailadresse und Namen durch xxx unkenntlich machen.

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Zur Telefonnummer +79078644541:
Zitat:Information on phone number range +7 9XXXXXXXXX

Number billable as mobile number
Country or destination Russia
City or exchange location
Original network provider*

http://anti-scam.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.p...87011403/0
Zitat:How's your day? My name is Elena. Unfamiliar woman sent me a message on the dating site
which was your e-mail. I decided to write to you. I'm looking for a man for
serious and long-term relations. I am single, I do not have children.
I'm 30 years. If you are interested in me, write to
me on my E-mail: samaia_umnitsa@rambler.ru, I will wait for your letter with impatience,
I will tell you more about myself.Good luck
Elena.

Noch eine Elena...
Ebenfalls aus Dzerzhinsk.
Wenn ich das so halbwegs ins Deutsche übersetze, kommt genau der Text aus dem Startbeitrag heraus.


Die Telefonnummer im angegebenen Thema ist auch die selbe!
Allerdings:


http://anti-scam.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.p...7011403/15
Zitat:Stimmt! Sie hat mich angerufen. Aber nicht mit der Nummer, die sie mir mitgeteilt hat,
sondern mit der... (+7 964 864-45-49)

Und diese Nummer gehört nach Yoshkar Ola:
http://www.mtt.ru/mtt/def
Zitat:OAO "Vympel-Kommunikation" Yoshkar-Ola, Republik Mari El




Na, da bin ich gespannt!
Wo soll das "Meeting" denn stattfinden?
In Russland, wie es sich gehört?

Auf jeden Fall:

Kein Geld senden! Unter KEINEN Umständen!!!

Es hat sich bewährt, an das Gute im Menschen zu glauben, aber sich auf das Schlechte zu verlassen.

у меня есть красивая подруга!
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Ich habe ihr vorgeschlagen, dass sie zu mir kommen soll, sie scheut keine langen Reisen.ExclamationExclamationExclamation

Ich werde die E-Mails in der Reihenfolge einstellen, wie sie gekommen sind.

Hier wäre die 2.

Hello, my dear friend!

I’m very happy that you answered my letter. First of all I want to

excuse me that I could not answer quickly. To enter the Internet I use

my old notebook but it had problems and my answer was so slow. Thank

you that you found time to write me.I think you have a lot of

questions to me. I’ll answer them with pleasure but unfortunately not

in this letter because I don’t have much time to write you. Now I can

tell about myself. We don’t hurry and I think we will be able to tell

a lot about ourselves each other)) If of course you are interested in

me)) I worry and don’t know what to begin with) As you already know,

my name is Elena. I was born and grown in Moscow, the capital of

Russia and a very big city with rich history. But few years ago I had

to move in another town. It is called Dzerzhinsk. It’s a small, quite

town not far from Moscow. I’ll tell you later about the reason of my

movement. As for my job, I’m a hairdresser. I do hairdo for men and

women. I like my job very much, it allows me to earn money. My dream

is to open my own beauty house. From my childhood I dreamed to become

a hairdresser or a stylist. So I combine business with pleasure))

Despite of it, I have a higher teacher education and know English

well, also I attend the courses of English language! Well, it’s time

to finish, I was very happy to answer your letter and I hope you will

write me again! In my next letter I will tell you more about myself.

If you want, could you write me more about yourself and send me some

your photos? Now I should leave you. I’m looking forward to hearing

from you as soon as possible, bye-bye!!!


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Bei genauer Betrachtung der im Header angegebenen Zeiten, kommt man der Gegend der wirklichen Einlieferung jedoch näher.

Zitat:Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 11:15:12 +0300
Dort müsste nach Auswertung des Headers jedoch +0400 stehen.
Die Einlieferung der Mail erfolgte demnach im europäischen Teil Russlands.
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Hier die 3. Mail, diese kam ohne Bild

Hallo.

I - traurig Vorhandensein von Brief von Ihnen, mich nicht Chance,

erhalten hier ein paar Tage, aber als ich gesehen habe, dass ich nicht

der Brief von Ihnen, die mich sehr traurig gemacht haben. Ich

verstehe, dass Sie sehr viel sein beschaftigt sich auf Ihre Arbeit,

aber ich bin abwesend, ohne dass Sie und mochte Um Nachrichten von

Ihnen erhalten, es ist schnell. Mit freundlichen Elena


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Mit der selben IP wie die vorhergehende Mail:
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Das findet sich bei

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ebenfalls, es handelt sich um den selben Absender

Es hat sich bewährt, an das Gute im Menschen zu glauben, aber sich auf das Schlechte zu verlassen.

у меня есть красивая подруга!
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Die folgenden E-Mails wurden uns zu Verfügung gestellt von Qualopeck

4. Mail
Hello xxx!
I’m very happy that you wrote me back, I was waiting for your letter
with impatience. I thought that you didn’t like my first letter
because it it had few information about me and I was afraid that you
won’t be interested by it. So, today I’ll try to tell about myself as
much as possible. Excuse me if I do some mistakes because of my
excitement. First of all I want to tell you why I decided to find a
man in Internet! My last relationships with a man finished one year
ago. I was dating with a man who was nice and dear at first but when
he understood that I fall in love with him he changed greatly, he
began to be rude, to drink and to beat me. In the whole, it’s
naturally that men drink and don’t respect women. At the end I was
tired of such relations that lasted 2 years. The whole year I couldn’t
begin new relations but my friends convinced me that it’s enough to
grieve and it’s time to feel a woman! This time I decided to build my
love through Internet. I don’t want to hide that you are not the first
man that I’m writing in Internet. Several men wrote me, with one of
them I began to make correspondence but very soon he began to ask me
sex by phone and bare photos. I was shocked by such behavior and
deleted him from my computer! Now I’m communicating with you) and hope
that you won’t act as that man. Otherwise I must stop our
communication because I’m a decent woman and look for serious
relations, not entertainments. It’s not important for me what
nationality, religion you have, the main thing is that you are kind,
tender and that I could rely on my man in difficult situations. It
makes me be cautious and very legible. in internet there are many
scoundrels and cheats that try to deceive other people. Even my friend
once suffered from fraudster in Internet and lost her money. Oh,
excuse me Sascha, I got carried away a little. I hope you understand
me in this question, do you agree with me? That’s why if you want to
speak with me by phone it will be when I learn more about you. Do you
have profile on Facebook? I think it’s interesting to communicate with
people in social networking. Unfortunately I don’t have possibility to
use Facebook because my computer is in the warranty repair and I have
to use my computer at work. And here it’s not allowed to use social
network. As soon as I receive my computer back, I will be able to
register in Facebook. I’m sure you are interested why I left Moscow.
This is a story of my family and I’ll tell you about it. I am an
orphan. My father went to another woman when I was 5 years old, since
that time I didn’t see him. He never visited us. My mother is Tamara,
she died from heart attack4 years ago. When I stayed alone, it became
difficult to live in Moscow. It’s a very expensive city, I had to sell
my flat in Moscow and to go to the region in the town Dzerzhinsk.
there I found the job and friends. I have only one relative, my
grandmother Zoya. She loves me very much and every summer i visit her
in the village in Moscow region. May be that’s why I look for a man in
Internet because nothing holds me here, and if i find love, I can
easily leave Russia. It’s difficult to speak about my family, hope you
understand. It’s enough to write about it. And you, xxx , do you
have a lot of relatives? Tell me please about it. Let’s I tell about
my working day. As I live alone, in the morning at 7.30 I go to work.
To tell the truth the fob of a hairdresser is very hard. During all
the day, I have to stay. My working day finishes at 6 p.m. and I go to
walk in the park and then return home. Seldom I meet with my friends
to walk and gossip)) and to go to the cafe. and what do you do at
work? What do you do? your profession? What do you do after work?
Please, don’t forget to answer my questions, it helps the development
of our relationship, we can learn more about each other. I will answer
your questions too. Unfortunately, I must go, I have to finish my
letter, hope it was interesting for you to read my letter and learn
some information about me. I promise you to continue my telling next
time. I’ll wait for your answer with impatience. Best regards, your
new friend Elena!


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Es hat sich bewährt, an das Gute im Menschen zu glauben, aber sich auf das Schlechte zu verlassen.

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Hello Xxx ! I am very glad to receive the letter from you today. I
am very glad that you still have desire write to me. It is very good
that it does not confuse you, that I live in Russia. Your country
seems to me very interesting and completely another than ours. You
will ask me from where I know it. I was abroad several times, I
visited Turkey, Egypt, the Ukraine. Of course, these countries are not
so developed as yours but for example in Turkey one can judge about
the development of European society. I am interested in tradition and
culture of other people of the world. Could you tell me about your
country? I’m happy that I have a foreign passport but unfortunately I
don’t have possibility to travel very often. If you decide to invite
me to you)), I have to refuse now because we know little each other
that’s why i t’s impossible to go to a man I know not very well.
Please, don’t offense at me, you should understand me. I’m afraid I’m
not ready to it. But in future when our relationships will become
closer, it will be real and I’ll meet with you with pleasure… We live
far from each other... It is a very big distance for both of us. But
this distance only seems a big. It at all does not frighten me. It
seems to me especially interesting. Don't you think so? I have read in
newspaper (it was already probably for a long time ago) that in other
advanced countries (Europe and Northern America) meets situation, that
women are more thoughtless (not so serious) than men. Is it true? I
would like to learn your opinion very much, also why do you search for
a woman on the Internet? I like to visit cinema. Oh, I love it! I like
to read books. I have many free time after my work, therefore I have
an opportunity to read. I love various love stories, detectives and
very, very much I love classical russian literature. Also I love
various music. I like different music, all depends on mood. When I'm
sad I listen to slow, sensual music. Jazz and blues. When I have good
mood I listen to modern music. I like pop, rock, dance. American music
is very pleasant to me (Jennifer Lopez "Baby I love You" and Aerosmith
"I Don't Want To Miss A Thing", and many others.), as well as Russian.
Bi-2, Rondo are Russian rock-groups, but it is not all my favorite
groups, it's a lot of, at once all of them will not remember. Jeniffer
Lopez, Aerosmith, Moby and other American groups. American films in
Russia have huge popularity. They, as believe, are the greatest. I
love American films, and I love many American actors. I frequently go
hiking in a wood, I like camping, BBQ or I like to go by bicycle in
the summer. I have my own bicycle. In winter I go skiing and skating.
All these distract me from everyday problems. So what do you do, when
you have problems and when you are sad? Now I should finish my letter.
I wait with alarm your answer. Also I want to ask you: have you ever
had friends from other country? Is it important for you a nationality?
Xxx , what foodstuff do you like? Please, tell me what is your
hobby, what you like to do in your free time except household needs as
job, family and rest. For example, art, cookery, music, sport and etc.
I want to know about it to discuss it in the next letter)) Yours
friend Elena.



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6. Mail:
Hallo mein lieber Freund Xxx . Ich sehr froh, Ihren Brief zu sehen.
Ich bin immer sehr froh, Ihre Briefe zu empfangen. Heute wurde Ich
mag mit Ihnen uber Essen reden. Ich sehr, wie die Vorbereitung .
Kochen ist Grundlage von Gesundheit, Leben zu hegen Familie. Ich wei?,
viele Rezepte Gerichte. Ich liebe leckere und gesunde Lebensmittel. Ja
, Mahlzeit sollte nutzlich sein Gesundheit, ist es am wichtigsten. Ich
sehr viel Liebe und verschiedene Kartoffel , diversifizierte Gerichte
aus diesem Gemuse . Wenn ich nach Hause komme , zuerst gehe ich auf
Kuche und ich mit den Vorbereitungen beginnen fur mich selbst etwas
Leckeres . Mhh ... Ich bin sehr liebe diese Momente , wenn meine
Freunde zu mir kommen . Immer versuche ich fur die Vorbereitung sie
jede verschiedene Fische Delikatesse , eine andere Art von Fleisch.
Ich versuche immer, meine Freunde geschatzten meine Fahigkeiten in der
Kuche , und fast immer es geschehen. auch ich sehr gerne Torten
backen. Xxx , Wissen Sie, was es ist "russisch pies" ? es ist eine
Fullung Lebensmittelgeschaft, in einem Teig eingewickelt und in einem
Ofen gebacken. die wichtig, nicht in der Mikrowelle . Ansonsten
Geschmack wird ganz anderes , au?erdem ist es schlecht grundlich
gebacken. Wenn Sie alles richtig machen, es gottlich ist schmecken !
Sie sollten diese Sache irgendwann essen ... Alle meine Freunde fur
eine lange Zeit haben es geschatzt. Ich begann zu bereiten , als ich 9
Jahre. Meine Mutter hat mich gelehrt, zu kochen, und ich bin ihr sehr
dankbar dafur. Aber niemand kann es zu schatzen, mit Ausnahme fur
meine Freunde . Ich sehr liebe meine Freunde. Jetzt konnen Sie in
meinem Leben ... Du bist mein Freund zu . Kann ich das glaube ? Ich
bin sehr wollen wurde denken, du bist mein Freund . Ich mochte
wirklich Sie zu kennen , um mit Ihnen zu sprechen, auf die Hand nehmen
und sehen, deine Augen. wahrscheinlich ist es ist jetzt sehr
aufrichtig, aber es ist wahr, und ich will nicht , es zu verbergen .
Ich habe immer sprechen wahr und ich mag es nicht , wenn Menschen -
Luge. Ich hasse es. Gefallt mir sehr gut , um traumen. Ich bin ein
Traumer .... Ich wei? nicht, es ist gut oder schlecht. Da der Kindheit
habe ich getraumt. Mein Lehrer irgendwie erzahlt uns: " Sie mussen
uber Ihre Traume zu vergessen ! " sie hat gesagt , dass Traume nicht
Gluck bringen. Sie hat gesagt , dass Traume bringen nur ein Schmerz
und Enttauschung. Kann sein, dass sie Recht hatte . Eigentlich Traume
wahr werden nicht immer. Es passiert , haben Sie , alles zu tun , alle
Krafte und alle Ihre Aspiration , um diesen Zweck zu erreichen. Aber
oft ist es nicht genug . nicht alles in diesem Leben von uns abhangt.
Schicksal! Ihre starken und unsichtbaren Handen Leben und Herzen die
Menschen leicht zu andern. Und dann stoppt Traum zu sein, eine
wunschenswerte Stern , wenn er wahrend lange Zeit ausgefallen ist .
Aber trotzdem , denke ich, das ist unmoglich zu leben, ohne Traum und
Hoffnung. Wenn Sie Traum ist unser Leben gefullt Sinn. Traumen , wird
das Leben interessanter und vielfaltig. Sie beginnen zu denken , zu
analysieren , wahlen und Entscheidung. Und jeder kleine Sieg , jede
Niederlage Hindernis auf dem Weg zu traumen , die jeweils folgenden
Schritt , um Ihren Traum bringt gro?e Vergnugen. Ihr Herz ist mit
Glauben und Hoffnung. Und Sie sind mit inspiriert Sache, die fur Sie
am Ende wartet . Sie erinnern sich gerne von Siegen und die besiegten
Zwecke besser als ein Schmerz der Verluste und Enttauschungen. Hierzu
Grund Ich mag zu traumen, wenn meine Traume wahr nicht so oft wie ich
will. ich bin uberrascht , dass ich schreibe Ihnen alle diese . Ihre
Briefe - ein Teil meines Lebens jetzt . Und um ehrlich zu sein , bin
ich Angst , dich zu verlieren . Verzeihen Sie mir meine Offenheit .
Wenn ich Sie beleidigt irgendwie, oder verursachten Unannehmlichkeiten
, bitte vergib mir . Horen Sie nicht schreiben Sie mir . Schreib mir
jeden Tag, auch wenn ich nicht jeden Tag antworten. Ich werde dich
trotzdem beantworten. Xxx , Ihre Briefe geben mir Krafte , und mein
Tag mit Freude gefullt. Ich hoffe , dass Sie nicht wutend geworden zu
sein. Ich werde fur Ihren Brief mit der Ungeduld warten. und jetzt Ich
mochte Ihnen einige Fragen stellen : Sie liebe Menschen, und was
denken Sie uber Kinder in einem Waisenhaus ? Xxx , Horte ich , dass
in Europa und den USA, Frauen nicht gerne fur schmackhafte und gesunde
Mahlzeiten zubereiten und Hausaufgaben, so ist es gultig ? Glaubst du
an die Liebe glauben ? Liebe auf den ersten Blick? Ich warte auf Ihren
Brief.

Mit freundlichen Elena


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7. Mail:
Hello, Xxx .
I am so happy to receive your letter and i can't find words to express
my joy. Xxx if you are not against i would like to ask you
something. I have already written to you in my last letter that this
aquaintance is new for me. Really i don't know how everything happens
but i heard a lot of times that people find each other by internet and
often it comes even to the marriage. I don't understand if it's
possible to fall in love through the internet? and how does it happen?
And do you believe in such love or don't you understand how it's
possible? Imagine the situation, for example we communicate with you
through the letteres for a long time, you liked me and i liked you.
But what will happen then? Are you ready to begin serious relationship
with a woman who lives in other country? As for me, i worry about this
topic, and you? Simply, if you are not ready and you don't look for
your second half (love), in this case i don't see the sense to
continue our communication further. As for me, i am looking for a
serious man for creating a family and it's not interesting for me
plays in feelings or a simple correspondence. Do you understand what i
want to tell you? I hope that yes and that you'll answer sencerely for
my question. I have already begun to write about my search and i
probably continue this topic. First of all we should learn what
qualities of a person we lokk for and after that we can continue our
communication. May be we don't suit to each other and if it's so there
is no sense to continue, am i right? Yes Xxx , i am not a princess
and i don't look for a prince. It was so far when men do exploits for
women's sake, but i still believe that these qualities live inside of
us and espessially in men. Xxx , frankly speaking, physical
qualities are not so important for me. Yes of course there are
sometines not so beautiful or worse. For most of people age plays a
big role but not for me. I am ++++++++++ years old and in Russia in
this age women must think about family and children. My friends have
already married but i am alone. I can't say that i have no admirers
here. There are men that tried but i try to reject their attention.
May be you think that i am hard to them. Yes may be it's true but what
can i do if they are not interested for me. Here in Russia a lot of
men drink vodka, like to be unfaithful to wives or simply abandon
them. The marriage in Russia is not stable and it hurts women very
much. My friends tell to me very often that there is no happiness in
family life. Of course their words frighten me, but i want to believe
that there is a man for whom i am necessary in this life. Xxx do
you believe that everybody must have a pair? I mean that everybody
must have a second half. God created people and gave them life, in
which must be a sense. For example, first people on the Earth were
Adam and Eva. God created them for each other and this pair was as the
whole. They were happy together and their life ia as example for all
of us. I don't know in what you believe but as for me i believe that i
have a second half in this world and now i am looking for him. Who
knows, may be it's even you and if it's true we'll understand it very
soon. Xxx i'm not very sure that you understand about what i am
writing to you. Excuse me for my philosophical thoughts. I only wanted
to let you understand that i don't want to play in feelings and that
i'm very serious in searches of my man. These words are the end of my
reasonings and i hope that you can understand me. Excuse me if this
letter will seem difficult for you. I know that it will be better to
write you about my life but this topic is so importent for me that's
why i wrote you about my search. I hope you'll appreciate it and write
me what woman you are looking for. Well I am at work now and must
continue to do it. I'll wait for your answer and hope you'll write me
soon. Have a good day. Kiss you!!! Sincerely your friend Elena.


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8. Mail:
Hello my dear Xxx .
You have again made my day more brightly. I'm glad that I can to write
to you again. I had good day today. In hairdressing salon where I work
today audit. You know what is it? It when check all papers and the
goods. The bookkeeper and his assistants is engaged in it. Therefore I
have the day off today. I walked on city and thought about you. I
decided to walk around a bit, go shopping, take a walk in the park. On
the way, I went to the interent cafe to check email and write to you.
I wrote to you in the first letter that I am 32 years! And how pass
your day? what interesting do you have today? What do you know about
my city? It's the small city. But in it there are minuses. Here is a
lot of proside on roads. Dirty air and is a lot of criminality. I
frequently think about other countries. Why in Russia so many people
which do not want to work. It's strange. I think that the person
should work and like it. The family, loved is necessary for the
person. For happiness it's nessesery very little. To have the worthy
salary for the work, loved person and calmness for yourself and
children. Only then the society will develop. But all it in Russia is
NOT PRESENT. There are all opportunities for this purpose. But there
is no order. oh, I have absolutely got into conversation.)))) maybe it
sounds roughly, but Russia is the country where authority and money
solve all. I do not want to live all my life here. I feel that I have
other destiny.))) You trust in destiny? Unfortunately my letter today
will be short, as the Internet cafe is now closed for lunch. I promise
that tomorrow I will write to you. And do not forget to write about
your day! Bye for now, my dear Xxx . one more little kiss!))) Elena


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RE: Elena <elena_paleno@rambler.ru> <fouldsraminezw255@gmail.com>
9. Mail:
Hello my dear Xxx.
Thank you very much for your letter, you can't imagine how i'm happy
to have it. We communicate with you not so long but i feel that you
are becoming closer to me. And I begin to wait for your letters. I
want to communicate with you in any time and more often that's why i
want to give you my telephone number +79078644541 that you can phone
me and we can speak with each other and i could hear your voice. Do
you like this idea? Now i'll wait for your call. I want our
communication to be continued and i would like to know you as close as
it's possible. I want to know everything about you. What do you like
and dislike? I like people that can take care of me and help me in
difficult situations. I like clever, kind and honest people. I value
good relations and hate rude and angry persons. I like animals,
especially cats and dogs. I do not like lie and when someone is lying.
I hate people who do bad to my family. I do not like when I am used in
personal gain, I do not like when I'm forced to do what I do not like.
Well i should say that i like you because you are so kind and very
attentive with me. Do you have a lot of friends that you can trust
fully? I have a lot of acquaintances but few real friends. I can
believe only them and tell about my secrets. It's so awful that I
have no brothers or sisters. It would be easier for me if I had
brothers or sisters. And now I'm alone. I am very glad that I met you.
I've never met a man like you before. As i wrote you earlier men don't
value women here, they are rude and they are not interested in real
love. My last man offended me very much. I hope that all my failures
will finish and i'll find a good man with whom i'll have a real
family. May be it's you, mear Xxx , i finish here and will wait for
your reply and call. Sincerely yours Elena


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RE: Elena <elena_paleno@rambler.ru> <fouldsraminezw255@gmail.com>
10. Mail:
Hello my dear Xxx.
Thank you for your new letter, it always does my day brighter and i
love reading your letters. May i call you dear Xxx? You can also
may call me as you want but not rude. I hope you are not against if i
call you like this, i like you very much and i have never heard so
many kind words before. I'm so happy and greatful that we found each
other through the internet. I ike you very much and i hope that we'll
be together. Every letter makes us closer to each other. May be ... I
hope that we'll find our love and happiness. I need in it, i feel very
lonly but i don't want to be single. I'm so sad that we are far from
each other but we are together in our thoughts. I mean when i'm
writing you a letter. I wait our communication by phone with
impatience. Well, my dear, yesterday i spoke with my my friend and she
told me the most unpleasant news. It seems that my teriff plan doesn't
allow me to receive and do calls abroad. She has already had problems
with it. I was waiting for your call the whole evening yesterday.
Don't worry, i have foud the decision of this problem, send me your
telephone number and i can call you from my friend as soon as it's
possible. And finally we could hear our voices. Unfortunately I can
not communicate with you on skype because I do not have PCs. I have
access to the Internet only with my work and internet cafes, and there
it can be done. So I ask you to communicate E-mail. Tell me what you
do at weekends. As for me, first of all i do the cleaning around the
flat. Then i go to my friend Marina. We think what to do during the
day. Usually we go for a walk around the town. If we go for a walk, we
go in our favourite cafe where we always spend time. Also at weekends
i like to go for a walk in the parc. I like to do it very much. I also
like to go to the cinema. But sometimes i stay at home in front of TV.
What channels do you like to watch? I like to watch cognitive channels
like "Discovery" or "Animal Planet". I like historical channels too. I
would like to ask you about your character. Tell me how your friends
and relatives would characterize you. Only don't write yourself. I
want your friends or relatives to answer it. As for me my friends
characterized me like this: kind, Soft (but not always), sometimes a
little silly, but usually enough smart, loving, romantic, honest, and
I expect it from others, open, dreamy, carful. I hope that you will
love me like that. I hope we'll know each other better through each
letter. I would lik? to walk with you on the beach in future. I love
the sun, water and sand. May be? What do you think? Well, here I am
dreaming again. I hope that our relationship will be more serious, I
hope so. I must go now and i'll wait for your nice letter tomorrow,
dear Xxx , kiss you with tenderness. Your beautiful Elena
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RE: Elena <elena_paleno@rambler.ru> <fouldsraminezw255@gmail.com>
11. Mail:
Hello my dear Xxx.
I have just received access to the computer and checked post at once,
and i am happy to have your letter. My humour always raises when i
read your letters. I reread them with pleasure. I would like to tell
you that i am fond of communicating with you very much. You are a very
interesting person and i have always dreamed to find so interesting,
clever and kind man as you. I think many women would be happy with you
and i'm glad that you write me. I would like to tell you that i'm
happy to find a man with whom i can communicate so easily. You became
a part of my life i think constantly about you. I think how you feel,
if you are ok. I always pray for you. Please tell me about your day.
Ma day was as usual. Today i was at work and was and thoyght about
you. My friend asked me why i was so happy. She saw that i was
smiling. I told her about our communication but she answered that it
seemed impossible for her, how i could communicate with a person i had
never seen. I told her that you wrote me a lot of sweety words et when
i communicated with you i felt that it was easy for me as we know each
other very long. She was glad for me and then said to me that she
envied. You know that i should find a true man that i can believe him,
share everything with him and spend good time in happiness with him. I
don't know why but it's easy for me to communicate with you. As i know
you for a long time. It's wonderful. May be you are my second part? I
kiss you with tenderness, my dear Xxx. I wait for your letter with
impatience. Your excellent Elena.


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